We discuss the role of talking about the health benefits of cultured products and how critical it is to actually point out the problems of the existing industry to drive change. I love that Irina disagrees with some of the previous interview guests that we have had this season. I appreciate her boldness in standing up for what she believes in. In this episode, you will hear from Irina Gerry from Change Foods. Change Foods uses precision fermentation to create real dairy without the cow, more about that in a few minutes. Prior to that, she has been a Senior Brand Manager in Plant-based innovation at Danone. This was such a great interview it was really hard to cut because it hits many of the most interesting topics: activism science manipulation and industry lobbying Connect with Marina Schmidt on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/schmidt-marina/  To stay up-to-date for future episodes take 3 seconds to click on “follow” and subscribe to Red to Green. More info and links to resources on https://redtogreen.solutions/    For sponsorships, collaborations, volunteering, or feedback write Marina Schmidt at change@redtogreen.solutions Please leave a review on Spotify and iTunes This episode is part of our season on promoting cellular agriculture and alternative proteins. Alt proteins are a rather recent development in the food industry and face some challenges on the consumer acceptance front. In the first season of Red to Green you will find an explanation of cell ag - whether you want to call it cultured meat, cell-based meat, cultivated meat, clean meat, or anything similar. This season is a follow-up and focused on the big challenges of cellular agriculture including socioeconomic questions, industry branding, nomenclature, and more. Red to Green is a food tech and sustainability podcast. We cover current food technology topics in-depth with a focus on sustainable innovations. Learn about the food industry in deep-dive seasons featuring industry leaders from food tech startups, corporates, and important VCs. Sustainable food is more than improving individual buying behaviors. Red to Green seeks to move the food industry from harmful to healthy, from polluting to sustainable from Red to Green.  Thanks to our partners of this season Food Labs: Food Labs is a leading European VC and company builder in food, health & sustainability. They cover the entire value chain – from ag-tech, alternative proteins, water supply, food security, decentralized food production, vertical farming, to food waste and carbon reduction. https://foodlabs.de/  NX-Food: NX-Food stands for Next Generation Food and focuses on consultancy, community, partnership and startup value creation – because the future of food needs to be shaped. https://nx-food.com/