As wildfires rip through California, energy expert Kevin DeRoberts talks with Austin about the most complex machine ever invented by mankind: our energy grid. Clean, renewable, and fossil energies are traded on markets, moved between countries, and affect our daily lives either by powering our modern culture or creating far-reaching detrimental effects. This interview is electric. Boogie-Oogie-Oogie. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.