How weird can we get? I speak with the super groovy and wise head witch in charge at Holisticism, Michelle Pellizzon-Lipsitz, about staying true to our art and magic in this big, strange capitalist world.  Michelle’s approach to business merges magic, whimsy, art, and an anthropological curiosity about existence. Past experiences of seizures, hearing voices, and trying to “fix” what seemed wrong solidified that life is not black and white. Rules are always an interpretation, there are always more answers, possibilities, and discoveries. From these ashes rose Holisticism.We get into how operating creatively within capitalism is not innate, what balancing compromise with sacrifice could actually look like, and a whole lot of other things that seem like opposites (i.e. spellwork and marketing). Staying focused within systems that tell us what we want isn’t possible sometimes feels overwhelming, but through tools like ritual, spellwork, and systems, there really can be balance among all that chaos. Humans have actually been practicing ritual and spellwork since forever, it's just been called by so many different names. Michelle breaks down each component of a spell, and I was surprised by just how flexible and personalized intentional magic can be. Ultimately meaning-making is a structure to help us understand our own minds. You both are and you aren’t the same as your business. You may nourish and cultivate it, but it is not your baby. Let’s remove the singular, concrete labels and instead celebrate that our identities are infinite.Topics Covered:Holisticism for intuitive small business ownersCreativity within capitalismHow to make a spell + Michelle’s favorite rituals Spiderweb thinking vs. linear thinkingPerfectionism is closer to mediocrity than failureAbout Michelle Pellizzon-LipsitzInstagram: @michellepellizzonlipsitzHolisticism: holisticism.comFollow Me:Instagram: @afinehuman Shop Dame: dame.com This podcast was produced by The Wave Podcasting