In this segment of the NCF, Dr. Murray has a discussion with Bob Zinga who is the Director of Information Security at Directly and is also an Information Warfare Officer for the United States Navy Reserve in San Francisco. Bob and Shawn discuss the similarities and differences related to the culture of security between both roles. Bob explains how a security leader needs to be able to communicate to multiple audiences on the commercial side and how that can impact how security is perceived. To be successful, you need to be able to speak the language of business and influence a culture of security.   -------------- Useful Links --------------   To connect with Bob visit the following links:   Bob’s Podcast (includes links to all major Podcast Platforms) https:/www.leadershipandsuccesspodcast.com    Bob's LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobfabienzinga/    Bob's Forbes Author Page https://tinyurl.com/bzforbesauthor    Bob's Website https://bobfabienzinga.com/    Please subscribe for more videos about Leadership and Success, help me build up this Youtube channel:  https://tinyurl.com/youtubeleadershipsuccess    Please subscribe, follow, rate, and add a review to  my Apple Leadership and Success Podcast, help me build up this channel:  https://tinyurl.com/appleleadershipsuccess    If you want to become a John C. Maxwell Certified Coach, please sign up at:  https://jmt.leadershipandsuccess.net/   #leadershipandsuccesspodcast #leadership #leadershipandsuccess #techleadership #successmindsets